Posts: 193. The 22 mag does not have the power to drop a coyote case offers a great selection of bullets for the coyote. He liked it for the versatility, of course, because along with a few other rounds like the .270 and .30-06, to name a couple, it got the job done. Load it with a strong bullet for coyotes and bump it up to a 100-grain version for deer. .243 Winchester Doing perfect double-duty as a deer/coyote rifle, Winchesters 6mm cartridge based on the .308 Win. On the other hand, the .243 has less recoil and (usually) a flatter trajectory at common hunting ranges. Guess we will try the superformance Vmax in 58 & 75 grain. 1 .243 Winchester. The .243 launches an 80 grain varmint bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of about 3,350 fps. Using a .270 or .308 on coyotes is way overkill. Ammo, some Vienna sausages and soda, and you were good to go. Bullets cannot be seated out very far. The 7mm-08 uses heavier, larger diameter, and more aerodynamic bullets that have a higher sectional density, more frontal surface area, more resistance to wind drift, penetrate better, and carry more energy down range than the .243 Winchester. Better powder and primers, of course, but also more grain sizes for bullets. We are excited about this comparison as both of these cartridges show tremendous versatility in both the hunting and competitive shooting worlds and not a lot of information is out there taking a look at these two cartridges stacked up side by side. N. Nighthawk Well-Known Member. Many more bullet choices and recoil will be much less. But to have a bullet rattling around their pump station, even a solid copper .243 round, would do a number on them. Reply. Dedicated coyote rifle, 22-250 vs 243? Given a rifle preference I would probably say a Ruger M77 MKII/Hawkeye. If you don't want to bring your iPad into the bathroom, we can send you a magazine subscription for free! Page 1 of 2 - Why Not .243 For Coyote? As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases. The .243 was within his orbit, too, along with many other whitetail hunters in the Southeast. The real upshot of it all is I have a closet full of many different calibers that have at different times seemed to be the "best" at the time they were bought. .243 for coyotes? Coyotes have a will to live that is simply unreal. They are great within their point blank range with heavy bullets. As an example, my brother and I each hit a coyote at exactly the same instant as he was running straight away at about 100 yards. I love the amazingly accurate 58g V-Max at 3700 fps for most coyote hunting. The 243 will make you feel like you can't miss. Without studying the wind drift tables and off the top of my head I'd guess the 243 with 80 gr bullets would buck the wind a little better than the 22-250 with 55 gr bullets at the longer ranges. Its no secret that the .223 is among our most popular cartridges for a number of Reliable and durable, with a three point safety mechanism and a free floating fluted stainless barrel built to military standards. A bit on the heavy side for fox and varmint targets, the .243 is ideal for coyotes, especially big northern dogs. These calibers all have many things going for them, the only thing one must do is get to know the strengths and weaknesses of the particular caliber you are shooting. These are some good ballistic figures, but it became apparent with the release of the .243 Winchester that hunters who were after coyotes, woodchucks and whitetails wanted something else. - posted in Predator Hunting and Calling: Hello! He liked it for the versatility, of course, because along with a few other rounds like the .270 and .30-06, to name a couple, it got the job done. Big box retailers weren't on every corner then; Wal-Mart was starting to grow but we had smaller versions such as Western Auto and Otasco along with locally owned hardware stores. I used to use 55gr nbt in mine and they were ok. Glen As a cross over gun it's no good. The 58g VMax from a .243 will stop within a coyote on occasion but not often enough to give that cartridge and advantage. Actually a dual purpose rifle Yotes, Paper and rocks. Without question, the best basic type of firearm for coyotes is a rifle, due to its higher velocities and capabilities of reaching targets at longer distances.. Of these two, in a bolt action, I would recommend the .243 (although I prefer 25-06 for coyotes) for more range and more speed to reduce lead. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. It will drive a 55-grain bullet to over 3800 fps, and that short bullet at that velocity will provide enough hydraulic shock to plant a coyote where it stands. For coyote it's more than adequate. 22-250 Or 243? Found that after a day or two of shooting varmints both the 243 and 25-06 were not the best in regards to recoil. The Creedmoor wont kill a coyote deader than a .243, but itll make hitting them at distances easier. Personally, the only reason I would consider the 6.5 Creedmoor here would be for the flatter trajectory in a long range competition and to have it in the AR Style Platform, as the .243 Win serves quite well for Deer, Hog, Coyote and other similarly sized predators, be they four footed or of the two footed variety the .243Win does the job quite well. In this cartridge comparison, we are going to take a look at the 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243 Winchester. If you're looking for coyote and deer, but maybe something fox sized I say go with the .243. No need to grind for .270 not even for tipped ammo for the .243. 243 vs 308 vs 7mm-08: Which Is Right For You? Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting, Hunting (40 yr.s mostly deer new to serious groundhog hunting), SCIFI (mostly books), crossbow (new to it), Aviation History, Military History, fishing (Bass & surf), birding (new to that too). Even coyotes are no match for the .243. The .243 is a great coyote gun. It's just one area in which technology has helped hunters. The .243 launches an 80 grain varmint bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of about 3,350 fps. ***Warning***This video shows the effectiveness of the proper bullet being used on the proper game. Several functions may not work. The .243 Winchester of 1955 doesnt look that much bigger than the .30-30 of 1895, but its higher allowable chamber pressure, larger powder volume, and sharply tipped, high B.C. In situations like I've mentioned above always remain humble and silent while your buds are patting you on the back.the more you talk and brag the less your friends will consider it skill as opposed to stupid dumb luck. coyote_runner Member. Step up to a 100 or grain Nosler partition and you are good to go for deer. Although I now have a few more things to hunt with, I still love the .243 and my old Winchester bolt-action rifle. A 55-grain or 75-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip or Hornady V-Max bullet would do great work against varmints while a 100-grain Sierra Game King could take down any whitetail in North America. Love my 243 for yotes tried all kinds of loads woodchuck 58grs to deer loads always came back to 100gr win. - posted in Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting: I posted this in response to something Red started and then it occured to me I might just get more response if I posted it independently. This cartridge is new to the shooting world, but it has been winning target competitions Reply. I am nearing the 500 coyote mark and have killed most of them with a 243. bullets give it more muzzle energy and downrange energy with a 100-grain bullet than the .30-30 can chum out with a 150-grain bullet. Part of the .243s popularity stems from its light recoil and dual-purpose function for taking varmints and predators as well as deer. Although 243 is the perfect caliber for coyote at long distance - you won't hit squat with the factory ammo. So, what do you think guys? Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kwaynem, May 11, 2019. I can't decide between a 22-250 and 243 for coyote hunting and had a question concerning the recoil between these two calibers. Temperature was recorded at 24 degrees below zero. I am planning on shooting varmint round out of each and not sure if I want to give up range of .243. I dont want to spend over $500 and i will probably reload them. Either will work on coyote so that's a plus..243 will more than likely be your typical rifle platform. .22-250 Remington. Can't wait to give them a try with my old rifle and see if I can find the magic from 40 years ago. I'm new to this serious varmint shooting I've noticed something reading varmint webs sites that seem curious to me. If you want to go coyote hunting, or at least need a suitable firearm and caliber for coyotes, then youve come for the right place. I've heard the 243 and 22-250 eat barrels for breakfast and I'm wondering if that's BS or if they really do chew them up "I don't want to replace match grade barrels once a month." Reply. Same for the 6.5's. .308 is way to much for coyote, but plenty for deer or longer ranges, obviously with good terminal ballistics. A good all around twist rate is 1:10. I use 65 gr V-MAX handloads and while they will stop a yote dead in his tracks they are not fur friendly at all. Long championed by a cult-like group of followers as the best all-round cartridge for the With typical vermin bullets at practical ranges (out to 400 yds) the trajectories are quite similar. This means it shoots about as flat as a .22-250, only its 80 grain spitzer bullet has a BC of .365, compared to the 55 grain .22 spitzer's BC of .255. The longest shot made on a squirrel that I've made with a witness is over 1300 yards with the 25-06 followed by a 900 yard rabbit with a 17 Rem. Joined: Jan 2, 2008 Messages: 2,569. I just finished up an Ackley version on a Savage build. As I get older the high speed 22's, 20's and 17's have a great deal of appeal. I love the amazingly accurate 58g V Hunting distances on deer I dont think there is enough difference to matter. When the 243 was first introduced many rushed to buy it and use as a varmint round. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > Kwaynem Member. 2013-14 TBC-- 52. 7mm-08 vs 243. Comparing the 22-250 and 243 from a target standpoint the 243 wins for barrel life only; 1200 vs 2500 rounds per barrel if you're pushing things fast. Should I drive hour and Half to get .243 or should I just go to local store and get the .223 . Even for varmints, it's overpowered and I'd take a .22-250 anyday. It uses a shorter case than the .243 Winchester1.920-inch vs. 2.045 inchesallowing for a longer bullet length outside the case in the same length magazine, and maintains the Given a rifle preference I would probably say a Ruger M77 MKII/Hawkeye. R. Rimfire Well-Known Member. Comments on this site are submitted by users and are not endorsed by nor do they reflect the views or opinions of COLE Publishing, Inc. Edited by AZZA, 02 September 2003 - 07:38 PM. I said either a .22-250 or .243 would be a good choice. That is my choice, (but I don't own a 6.5) the 223 and the 243 are not similar caliburs, the 243 is way more gun. The 6.5 Creedmoor also has a slightly less tapered case with a steeper 30 degree shoulder (the .243 has a 20 degree shoulder). Trial and error is part of the process, of course. Page 1 of 4 - .243 vs .223 - posted in Coyote Hunting: Dicks is having a sale on Remington 700 for black Friday. Anything in between is just that. I'm about to head west for some coyote hunting and will be taking my Rem 700 VLS chambered in 243 Win. And thanks the Grelk, no need for the 7mm, while you get a decent shotgun and an interesting pistol. A custom .243 Win. 7mm-08 vs 308. Photo: Fort Scott Munitions. .22-250 vs. .223 Our experts weigh in on their preferred rifle cartridge - .22-250 vs. .223 - for hunting coyotes. Like you said, you want a dedicated coyote gun and a typical rifle platform is going to be just that, dedicated to hunting..223 can be either a typical rifle platform or you can build an AR platform rifle. February 14, 2018 By Joseph von Benedikt & David Faubion.22-250. Both are good calibers. That's a tuff choice, they're both good ones. Im thinking about a .243 or a 22-250. Like its early competing calibers, the .243 Winchester was originally offered in two bullet weights: 80 grainers were primarily for varmints and 100-grain soft points were for deer. My father shot a .308 and for years I thought that was the ticket because it was bigger. Of the caliber's you've listed, get a .270. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o can be chambered in short, trim, light, balanced, lively bolt-action rifles that are a delight to carry and fast to whip into action. 6.5 creedmoore vs .243. I was planning on getting a .243 but local store does not have any in stock. im looking to shoot out to 800 yards or so on coyote and about 300 to 400 or more on deer. was designed as both a light deer rifle and a varmint cartridgeit can hold its own against high-velocity .22-calibers but still provide enough oomph to take down larger animals. Not that either kicks a lot until you shot 150 or 200 rounds in a day. For deer, you should use the heavier bullets, 95 or 100 grain, at least, but if you place the bullet in the kill zone, it'll take a whitetail. |, 5 Lesser-Known YouTube Hunting Channels That Should Be on Your Radar, Super Bowl Commercial From Bass Pro Shops and Cabela's, 5 Keys to Improving Your Archery Accuracy, Video: 4 Steps to Cooking the Perfect Venison Steak, 11 Must-See Mitten Memes With Bernie Sanders, Considering the Versatile .243 as a Hot Coyote Caliber. Ron Spomer . .223 Remington. If he hasn't found a rifle and has an open mind on caliber choice, the .224 caliber also works great for coyotes. Guess that's why we have so many guns. The company's lead-free solid copper bullets are CNC machined to achieve a+/- .002 tolerance for each round for consistency and accuracy. I dont know why, but just as Winchester seems to rule the .30-caliber markets Thanks in advance for all your help as I'm still learning the ropes in the coyote world. 243 vs 308 for deer, coyotes, & black bear. The biggest takeaway from the 6.5 vs .243 ballistics trajectory comparison in those two cartridges is that given each bullets characteristics: The .243 has a Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) of 296 Yards; The 6.5 CM has an MPBR of roughly 325 yards There is no comparison with the 243 in daylight hours. .243 vs 22-250. coletrain01. Best Coyote Cartridge? Can't wait to give them a try with my old rifle and see if I can find the magic from 40 years ago. Any thoughts? I didn't realize at the time that the .243 was just fine for hunting deer and predators. An 80 grain .243 will be going 3300 ft/sec and has a very flat trajectory for those long varmint shots. Coyotes are in the varmint category and don't need much to dispatch them. Hunting , shooting, vacations,unemployment in the winter, remodeling the house, kickin the cat, Diane, & my 2 kids-- Crystal & Glen Jr. The MN will be a nice option for starters. If you just want to kill coyotes the 243 is awesome. My favorite bullet in 6mm is the Sierra 80g Blitz bt, it is awesome to say the least, provides the loudest PLOP of A rodent cartridge is invading Coyoteville. It's a good all around caliber as you said. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. If you were in rural Mississippi or Alabama or just about anywhere else in the Southeast and needed a box of .243 or .30-30 then you could find it. #2968217 - 06/07/16 09:16 AM Re: 243 or 6.5 creedmoore for coyotes [ Re: g Bo ] btech29. I'm pretty new to the long range shooting and this forum so what would be some good threads i could read or any websites i should look at? Hunting, varminting, fishing, snowmobiling. Ron Spomer. No hassles, either. Snow has found this extends brass life, as well as giving more room in the shortened case. I was looking at the savage axis and from the reviews Ive read it seems like a decent gun for the money. There are a lot of guy's who use.243 for coyotes. But you can shoot a 75g V-Max at 3400 fps for deadly accuracy out to 500 yards or so on a coyote. He decided on a Kimber Hunter in 243. Joined Mar 20, 2004 Messages 24 Location wisconsin. I didn't realize at the time that the .243 The Environment, Shooting ferals whom destroy Australia's fragile ecosystem, , Bush walking and fishing. This is an enormous difference and it explains why the .24's are so much better than the .22's on windy days. 6.5 vs .243 Ballistics Trajectory. Rochester MN. The smallest caliber we use is a 22-250. MN is paid dlc. Top. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Participant. Featured image: Georgia DNR. But to have a bullet rattling around their pump station, even a solid copper .243 round, would do a number on them. The trajectory table here tells the tale. You currently have javascript disabled. two reasons they shoot best in my gun, have to hit them at all yardages in order to carry them home, also deer season is at same time excellent deer round the heavy 100gr. If it's going to double as a deer rifle, I'd recommend the 75-90 bullet in 243 for coyotes. Fort Scott Munitions' new .243 Win ammo comes with a solid copper bullet in three grain sizes. Thanks and what guns should i look at? I have a bit more experience in that and as well as the people that I hunt with. Is there a noticable difference or is it just slightly noticable? 2021 Grand View Outdoors All Rights Reserved It's the CZ527 and i Unlike 40 years ago, today we have more options with ammunition. Join other outdoor enthusiasts who already get great content delivered right to their inbox. It shoots flat, is accurate and does the job well when I do my job of making a good shot. All i am going to do with the gun is Coyote hunt. They made the old .244s with a slow twist barrel and some 100-grainers would not stabilize. +1 on the superformance. With a 100gr bullet in the 243, and a 123 in the grendel, the 243 has 100ft-lbs more than the 6.5 at the muzzle. It will also topple a wolf. .223, .243, or .22-250? When Winchester introduced the .243 Winchester in 1955, it quickly became a best-selling sporting cartridge. The .243 never has had an issue with 100-grain bullets. I don't really use my .243 for coyotes much anymore but I am going to try and take a couple of the neighbour kids out calling coyotes this year and they both shoot .243's. Which ammo is the cheapest also? They tumble upon impact in soft tissue, creating a wide internal wound channel. BUT if you plan on selling the pelts the 243 is not a user friendly cartridge, unless you absolutely love sewing. This is not recommended for shared computers, Back to Guns, Loads, Optics and Gear for Varmint Hunting. I personally don't like the .243 for deer, to be honest, but personal opinion doesn't mean much, and the .243 has killed a lot of deer. High performance bolt action rifle, with composite textured stock giving great grip in the most weather extreme conditions. On the other hand, the 6.5 Creedmoor most often utilizes bullet weights in the 95-160 grain range, with 120, 129, 140, and 143gr bullets being the most common. Back in my early coyote hunting days I wasn't a reloader so I shot 80 grain Core Lockts. About the mid 80s they coyote population exploded. The .243 is considered a good entry level deer gun thanks to its relatively low recoil, but its real attraction is in its versatility. Does anyone have a strong recommendation for one caliber vs. the other? Should I drive hour and Half to get .243 or should I just go to local store and get the .223 . I currently hunt with my dad 30-30 or my 12 guage. Then I got into reloading and loaded Hornady 70 grain SX bullets and they worked well. This rifle belongs to the standard set of equipment that every player receives. We shot a lot of animals with a .257 Weatherby and Ackley. I have seen the .243 do good work on whitetails, but bullet selection will be key between collecting pelts or putting venison on the table. Smart owners stocked BB guns and BBs, a few rifles in popular calibers and the ammo for them. One reason these rounds were popular was you could pick up a box of ammo in just about any country gas station, pawn shop or local outdoors store. I think it would be great for hunting coyotes, too. Coyotes aren't thick like a deer. most of the time punches right thew yotes leaving small exit. Reply. Thank you for your replies. Joined Jul 14, 2007 Messages 483 Location Maryland. The .243 is not very fur friendly IMO. It is why it's ass got kicked by the .243. Whew, no wonder this pack is a hit! .243 Winchester. It uses a shorter case than the .243 Winchester1.920-inch vs. 2.045 inchesallowing for a longer bullet length outside the case in the same length magazine, and maintains the 6.5 Creedmoors 30-degree shoulder. In fact, if there was a I have seen the .243 do good work on whitetails, but bullet selection will be key between collecting pelts or putting venison on the table. There are a lot more hunting bullet choices in factory ammo for the 243. Of these two, in a bolt action, I would recommend the.243 (although I prefer 25-06 for coyotes) for more range and more speed to reduce lead. The 6mm Creedmoor vs .243 is a very interesting comparison. The deer designed bullets are going to pass through the coyote like a laser bearm, no expansion, and it is going to run off wounded. Edited by lunarlithic, 24 October 2014 - 03:50 PM. For arguments sake let's have the rifles loaded with these 2 rounds: 243: 100 grain soft point (winchester super x) 308: 150 grain soft point (winchester super x) I dont need to shoot over 200 yards because where i hunt, it is pretty brushy. Ok. Let's here everyone's thoughts on these 2 calibers. For an all around caliber the 25-06 gets the call from me as being a little better at distance and larger game. The 6mm, was another screw up from Remington. RIP Russ,Blaine & Darrell!! I have loads worked up with Sierra 85 HPBT and 87 Vmax that both provide acceptable accuracy with a slight edge going to I used to use the .243 all the time but switched to the .223 just because it was cheaper to shoot. The handload contained a Hornady 87-grain V-MAX bullet. The new 6mms are all fine for 100 and above. For hunting I'd stand by the 1st statement re; 223 v 22-250, and then revise to add the 243 has heavier projectiles as well as a broader weight range so it would win the battle, in my mind anyway. Bullet selection can help limit pelt damage and still be an effective killer. The biggest drawback to the 6mm, is the lack of magazine space. They accounted for a lot of dead song dogs. .243 comes with the base game. I told him the .223 is a good caliber choice, but does lack the longer range knockdown he's looking for, plus the wind can start to wreak havoc past a couple hundred yards. It should work just fine for coyotes, too. Just as important, its popularity has led to an extensive selection of factory ammunition. What is The Best Coyote Gun? One example is Fort Scott Munitions' new .243 TUI ammo, which will come in 58-grain, 70-grain and 80-grain rounds. I was planning on getting a .243 but local store does not have any in stock. Hunting predators such as coyote, fox and bobcat with success requires you to have good woodsmanship skills. 6.5 Grendel. for some longer shots. Reactions: CBH Australia, Ckgworks and DJ Fergus. It was and is good at the job. Skill with a whole bunch of luck (I should highlight luck but still like to brag to those that will listen)both shots were a true surprise that I took great credit for. That drops to around 50ftlbs at 300, and the 6.5 takes the lead past 450. Also if he doesn't reload, ammunition options are huge. The .257's have the same edge on smaller stuff that the 6.5's hold on deer. Please enable JavaScript to view the comments. Anyway, he also asked about purchasing a dedicated bolt action coyote rifle. Hey guys Im looking to get into some coyote hunting this winter. so im wanting to get a new gun for coyote/blacktail hunting and was wondering which one would be better? I was wondering if anyone had any bullets they recommend that will leave a coyote hide salvageable. Just as important, its popularity has led to This is a windy day coyote rig with varmint bullets. I'm shooting 52grain hornady bullets right now. November 28, 2012 at 6:32 pm #210301. It might be a bit much if pelt preservation is a consideration though. The .243 Win. The Creedmoor wont kill a coyote deader than a .243, but itll make hitting them at distances easier. I chose to step up to the 25-06 as a dual purpose round. Jul 29, 2004 #12 The 243 is better for longrange shots and shoots better in the wind than the 223 would. Its a look at an old but trusted and proven cartridge in the .243 Win and a look at a new 6mm Creedmoor cartridge where the results have yet to come in on if it is here to stay or will eventually fall back into obscurity. The latter, too, are more advanced for penetration and expansion. If you are looking at shooting a lot of coyote-size animals, I would say go for the .308, however if it is mostly smaller critters and an occasional coyote, I would recommend the .243, if not something even smaller but with a faster bullet. This coyote was taken with a Ruger No. To address the OP. When I started deer hunting 40 years ago the versatile .243 rifle caliber did the trick for my first whitetails. Page 1 of 4 - .243 vs .223 - posted in Coyote Hunting: Dicks is having a sale on Remington 700 for black Friday. It's a good round that delivers a little more down range energy than a 22-250. This caliber is perfect for youth hunters as a dual-purpose firearm, good for coyotes and deer. BADUNAME37, Feb 27, 2011 #6. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o There is blood and a bunch of it. Coyotes aren't thick like a deer. He used a 58g VMax from his .243 and I used a 100g Hornady Interlock from my 25-06. The .243 was within his orbit, too, along with many other whitetail hunters in the Southeast. The .243 Winchester is a better varmint cartridge than the .25's, while remaining adequate for hunting deer and antelope. Depending on bullet weight, the cartridge is capable of taking on anything from ground hog sized varmints at medium to long range all the way up to mule deer at medium range. If you're looking for coyote and deer, but maybe something fox sized I say go with the .243. If you hit them behind the diaphragm, they can still keep breathing, but 243 caiber bullets have a lot of punch. Dropped a coyote in his tracks yesterday at 275yds. Davek1977 Member. .243 is for kids or varmints, imho. Thank You Ryan . The .243 Winchester, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester are all mild recoiling and flat shooting cartridges well suited for hunting thin skinned game like coyotes, pronghorn, mule deer, whitetail deer, or fallow deer.
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